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WobbleSock
10-28-2010, 03:00 AM
I was just wondering what the general opinion of the latest Medal of Honor installment is like here on this Forum. From what I have seen from the many threads I have read in the past day, this Forum doesn't have that much Fanboyism going around (Which is always a good thing, means we can have actual educated discussions instead of flame wars).

Just a bit of background information for those of you who are not familiar with MoH: The game is a Modern FPS which is set in the War in Afghanistan and is based around a true military operation ("Operation Anaconda"). A interesting fact behind the development of the game is that the game actually had two different developers; Danger Close (Basically EA Los Angeles, who have developed all of the games in the MoH series) developed the singleplayer using the Unreal Engine 3. The Multiplayer on the other hand was developed by DICE, who are of course the developers of Bad Company 2 and MoH uses the same engine as Bc2 (Frostbite).

I frequent the MoH section of the EA Forums a lot, and I must say that the sh*t has hit the fan there. Basically nothing but complainers there having a cry about how hard the Multiplayer is. Really sad, to be honest.

I personally think the game is fantastic; albeit the short Campaign and very slightly buggy MultiPlayer. It is a medium between Bad Company 2 & Mw2 when it comes to Gameplay; It has the strategic and tactical feel of Bad Company 2 but it mixes it in with the very fast paced action of Mw2. Its great, I am loving the mix. I cant just run into the fight with guns blazing like in Mw2, I had to move around quickly from cover to cover with my team mates to outflank the enemy and win the game. Very fun, especially when you play with & against a team that knows what they are doing!

Lag is not barely noticeable for me, sometimes there are a few minor signs of lag but it definitely does not hamper the gameplay. I mainly play on American servers and I never have to worry about getting owned because of unbearable lag.

Really loving the game!

So what do you guys think of it? I am quite curious to see if this Forum at least has a few people who actually enjoy the game (Unlike the EA Forums...)

jango
10-28-2010, 06:13 PM
I got a little excited about moh when I heard the original announcement, but then when more stuff came out I kinda realised that it was quite samey to other recent shooters. Having played Bad Company 2 not that long ago I knew it wouldn't match up to the scale of that game (esp the tactical play), and wouldn't keep me engaged for as long as New Vegas would/will. So, in short .. I didn't bother with it.

WobbleSock
10-29-2010, 04:00 AM
Its similar to other shooters, but it has enough difference in gameplay to make it unique. I think the game requires more tactics than Bf2, especially seeing as it is very easy to get owned if you don't use a lot of smoke grenades, cover, etc.

EDIT: But if you got New Vegas then I guess that will keep you preoccupied until Christmas.

jango
10-29-2010, 07:02 AM
EDIT: But if you got New Vegas then I guess that will keep you preoccupied until Christmas.

Indeed mate .. or at least until Cataclysm comes along on the 7th of December :p

WobbleSock
10-29-2010, 07:17 AM
Indeed mate .. or at least until Cataclysm comes along on the 7th of December :p

Ah yes, WoW...How could I forget?

I have never really played WoW before, and I don't really want to considering how some people lose their nut over it and spend 6+ hours a day on it (Not saying you do, of course). I think I'll just stick to Minecraft instead lol.

jango
10-29-2010, 07:23 AM
Ah yes, WoW...How could I forget?

I have never really played WoW before, and I don't really want to considering how some people lose their nut over it and spend 6+ hours a day on it (Not saying you do, of course). I think I'll just stick to Minecraft instead lol.

Lol yeah .. it does have the capacity to eat up hours for sure lol.

Diligence109
10-29-2010, 09:16 AM
I like that I now know a lot more about the MoH series than I did before, thanks for an awesome and informative post! I don't have the game, though, and just don't have the time to pick up another game right now :(

You mention "slightly buggy multiplayer"... what are the little bugs (that I assume everyone is raging about on EA's forums?)

Ilyich Valken
10-29-2010, 10:13 AM
Eh I don't know, I played in the beta and the staying power of the multiplayer was.. very dissappointing, seeing as it's from the same company that did the Battlefield games (DICE) and just felt like a BFBC clone, and not really one that held my attention. I HAVE played BFBC2, and I loved the multiplayer, but it just.. I dunno.

WobbleSock
10-29-2010, 07:53 PM
I like that I now know a lot more about the MoH series than I did before, thanks for an awesome and informative post! I don't have the game, though, and just don't have the time to pick up another game right now :(

You mention "slightly buggy multiplayer"... what are the little bugs (that I assume everyone is raging about on EA's forums?)

Thanks, I have always been a huge MoH fan (The best World War Two games ever) and seeing as I was pretty disappointed by MoH: Airborne I was hoping that the new MoH would be good. So far, it has exceeded expectations!

I thought I should indeed mention a slightly buggy multiplayer because, for some reason, all those idiots at EA Forums seem to complain about the apparently "Unbearable" bugginess, but seeing as I have experienced nothing worse than half a body sticking out of a wall I believe that those are just the comments of 12 year old CoD fanboys who are afraid of any competition.

glenofimaal
10-29-2010, 10:56 PM
Thanks, I have always been a huge MoH fan (The best World War Two games ever) and seeing as I was pretty disappointed by MoH: Airborne I was hoping that the new MoH would be good. So far, it has exceeded expectations!

I thought I should indeed mention a slightly buggy multiplayer because, for some reason, all those idiots at EA Forums seem to complain about the apparently "Unbearable" bugginess, but seeing as I have experienced nothing worse than half a body sticking out of a wall I believe that those are just the comments of 12 year old CoD fanboys who are afraid of any competition.

You should have read the BFBC2 forums when it was released :twitcy:

I didn't really like BC2.... the maps were horrible compared to BC1 :no:

DirtyDMan
10-30-2010, 11:30 AM
I have this game and I'll give you guys my opinion on it... To keep it short if you dont want read this game isnt that great... Its really a half azz game that most gamers would be disappointed in..

Yet if you love sniping this game is for you and the best mode to do it on is "combat mission" I'm not a big sniper but on this game the sniper is the best weapon in most cases/modes... Its really easy....

If your a run and gunner then this game might not be right for you... The maps arent that big and you really wont get that many kills before you die...

another thing is to get a lot of kills camping is the best thing to do on this game... find a nice spot and camp....

The single player for this game isnt that great and its really a short game... Theres not that many intense battles many one or two.. The campaign lasts about six hours, and on the normal difficulty level, it isn't particularly challenging. Ramping up the difficulty makes your foes appreciably harder to kill yet not that much harder...


Despite the focus on realism, however, Medal of Honor tries to tightly control your experience throughout the campaign, and this leads to some unfortunate problems. Part of the campaign experience immerses you in the dialogue among your squadmates and up the command chain (some of which is thoughtfully spent ensuring that the individuals in your crosshairs are actually enemies). Much of this chatter is delivered on the run, but there are times when your progress is halted at a flimsy door or a short rocky ledge to let your squadmates talk. There are also a lot of invisible walls that prevent you from going off the beaten path. These two elements seem designed to keep you in line so you can experience the campaign the way it was meant to be experienced, but they can feel heavy handed and restrictive at times. Perhaps more egregious is the not-so-hot enemy AI. The Taliban soldiers can shoot and take cover reasonably well, but they often enter the battlefield or stick their heads out from behind cover in alarmingly predictable ways.

The Problems I noticed with this game online....

Their is lag and as you play a game dont be surprise if your game freezes for a short period of time then starts again... Once or twice in about normal for during the course of playing one game...

Frame rate is really bad as well.. Again dont be surprised if you find your self dieing behind walls/cover.... A number of times I get shot at and take cover behind something and I still die...

Just trying to play with friend can be annoying... You make a party and can only invite 3friends... Cant talk in the lobby.... You find a room and it will most likely put one of your friends on the other team even tho theres room on the other team that your on... so you have to back out and try again... Then if you get everyone on the same team the mics might not work...

Spawn camping happens a lot on this game, yet when you spawn you cant die right away so if you move fast you should be find...

a lot of people camp/snipe so dont be surprised if your taking objectives on all by yourself at times... I mean most of the time.....

Game modes are deathmatch, sector control, objective raid, and the progressive combat mission.

Sector control is where you have to control there points.. Each team can take over all three points...

objective raid is where one team has to arm a two devices and the other team as to protect it.. This mode doesnt usually last long...

combat mission is exactly like rush on BF2.. One team has to take over a sector and the other has to protect it.. If it gets taken over then you move on to the next one... This is the best mode on the game...

The online is a lot better then the single player but will take some time to get use to...

WobbleSock
10-30-2010, 08:21 PM
Despite the focus on realism, however, Medal of Honor tries to tightly control your experience throughout the campaign, and this leads to some unfortunate problems. Part of the campaign experience immerses you in the dialogue among your squadmates and up the command chain (some of which is thoughtfully spent ensuring that the individuals in your crosshairs are actually enemies). Much of this chatter is delivered on the run, but there are times when your progress is halted at a flimsy door or a short rocky ledge to let your squadmates talk. There are also a lot of invisible walls that prevent you from going off the beaten path. These two elements seem designed to keep you in line so you can experience the campaign the way it was meant to be experienced, but they can feel heavy handed and restrictive at times. Perhaps more egregious is the not-so-hot enemy AI. The Taliban soldiers can shoot and take cover reasonably well, but they often enter the battlefield or stick their heads out from behind cover in alarmingly predictable ways.

I like how you copy+pasted that from GameStop's review of the game.

It has been announced that a patch is being made, and it includes a big nerf on the Sniper rifles. I agree that Sniping is an issue on Combat Mission, but on the other game mode the Sniping is barely a problem. There will be 2 or 3 snipers on each team, but not a lot like in Combat Mission.

I don't think there is much camping in the game except Combat Mission, seeing as you cant go prone and it is easier to be seen Camping isn't a good idea in the game.

I personally thought the Campaign was awesome; albeit short. But I guess we just have different opinions on it.

I only experience very little lag and that is saying something, because I live in Australia and I play in a lot of American servers. In CoD this would have resulted in unbearable lag, but in Medal of Honor it is not noticeable and doesn't hamper my game time.

Spawn Camping is mainly an issue on Combat Mission, especially when they call in Offensive Support Actions. However as you said, move fast and you will be able to get out of it.

DirtyDMan
10-30-2010, 08:37 PM
yea I copy a lot of things and paste them on these forums... Just forgot to put the quotes tags around it.... I just felt that was the best way to tell people about the single player then trying to put it in my own words... Its said everything I wanted to say....

Saying there not a lot of camping is BS my friend... Half the game modes are based on camping an objective... Objective raid and Combat missions... as well as control points to be honest...

Plus there no way your going to get your TSA up by just running around... Maps are too small and people come form everywhere..

The game does run smoothly for the most part but at times the game will freeze for a few sec then start up again. This will happen once or twice during a game. So depending on where you are it can get you killed...

Plus the frame rate is off... a number of time I get killed when I'm clearly behind a wall or out of the guys view...

trying to make a party is an issue itself as well which I explain...

The single player wasnt that great at all... This game got a lot of hype and didnt live up to it...

Yes yes yes patches patches... Sorry but when you pay $60 for a game it should work for the most part.. Game companies are releasing half azz games then just patching them.... yet the games are still $60.. Doesnt seem right to me....