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[Jokersvirus]

For homework in Social deviance, and the ability to skip class yesterday, I had to go to a presentation called "heads vs Feds." I dont remember the names of the DEA agent nor the pothead speakers So I will refer to them as "DEA" and "Head."

So to start off I get to the theater at around 6:25-6:30, first thing when i wake into the building the smell of weed is in the air... People were talking about how the head will be all for us smoking pot etc etc. Pretty much people being stupid and annoying forgetting that weed is still illegal. My friends show up and we discuss the stupidity of the people and how its really funny. At about 6:45, they open the doors and we get our seats, the smell of weed just gets worse and worse I got a contact high thats how bad it was. So the head and DEA agent come out and the head goes first giving his 5 reasons as why it should be legal, ranging from free medicine to freedom of religion. When the head said that weed is less dangerous than anything other legal drug out there, alcohol and smoking, everyone was clapping, cheering, having an overall **** fit of happiness.

My friends and I make comments regarding the stupidity of the crowd several times in a 3 hour period. So after 15 minutes the DEA agent starts his speech and gets booed, giving us a 5 minute speech on respect, which was greatly needed I clapped when he was done giving it. So he gives his 5 reasons as to why it shouldnt be legal, ranging from just because its natural doesnt make it safe to hiding behind first amendment rights to just smoke.

The overall best part was this... The DEA agent said that he saw everyone clapping and cheering for making weed legal and he thanked those people because of them it will remain illegal because they dont know what maturity is and they would just be idiots with it. The head said pretty much the exact same thing but added "If you are smoking weed here at school... Stop you are here for an education your wasting time and effort on smoking instead of putting your time into your studies." Naturally when the DEA and head started to agree on it will remain illegal because you want to smoke it just so the cops wont hassle you anymore people walked out, it dropped from about 300 to about 150 in about 15 minutes.

So overall it was funny and great to see people walk out because the head didnt say lets make it legal just to smoke. It was great.


So overall what did I learn I think it should still be illegal, because 99% of everyone who smokes it only does weed to get high no other reason. Weed will remain illegal for pretty much ever because people are stupid and wont stop being stupid with the damn thing. That out of the 419 chemicals in the plant only two are good chemicals and they were used in a medicine created by a company in Germany and its used for pain and the best part, it doesnt get you high. In reality it is better than alcohol and if we had to choice between alcohol or weed it would be weed, but making it legal now would only comply the issues with drinking and smoking ya it would be a bad Combination I want nothing to do with weed, but if it has legit purposes use them to the fullest and keep it out of the hands of those who dont need it and keep it a criminal act to smoke and drive wont save the state any money but we will roll with it. .

So my final thoughts are this, if you smoke weed and you get caught there is no one to blame but yourself, dont blame law enforcement they are only doing their job blame your state governments.

[LiNuX]

They had that point. But I personally, I think we should legalize it just so we could regulate it. I wont' be doing it but it could bring in a whole lot of money for the government through taxes.

Almost a similar effect of repealing prohibition. I don't drink either but tax-wise it would be smarter imo.

[Diligence109]

They had that point. But I personally, I think we should legalize it just so we could regulate it. I wont' be doing it but it could bring in a whole lot of money for the government through taxes.

Almost a similar effect of repealing prohibition. I don't drink either but tax-wise it would be smarter imo.

this, +1, thumbs up, etc

marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol (and in fact less so, both in terms of health risks/effects (even when smoked!) and in terms of the behavior it creates.)

The way things are trending, I'm guessing we very well may see it legalized in our lifetime. It wont be for a while still but I don't think it's out of the question (though I haven't done thorough research of the subject or anything.)

[Muffincat]

Agreeing with everyone else who says to make it legal - and that it will become legal, probably within our lifetime, as the older generations die out and younger ones continue to take their place.


The DEA agent said that he saw everyone clapping and cheering for making weed legal and he thanked those people because of them it will remain illegal because they dont know what maturity is and they would just be idiots with it.

I don't understand how this makes any sense. Clapping and cheering for something you believe in doesn't make you an idiot or immature. And numbers are what you need to make something legal - it has nothing to do with maturity or intelligence. Anyone can go out and vote to make something legal, and, eventually, the effort to legalize marijuana is going to get enough people behind it to make it legal. I don't smoke and I don't intend to start, but I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it is illegal, and we could be doing a lot more with the money we spend on trying to keep it illegal.

[paecmaker]

Doesnt mariuana (misspelled) give you hallucinations?

If you legalised it, the country would earn money and people got happy, in short term but what about longterm. Alcohol is legal and we see how some people cant control their addiction.

[Diligence109]

Doesnt mariuana (misspelled) give you hallucinations?

No, Marijuana doesn't give you hallucinations. Some people say that you get auditory hallucinations with heavy enough doses and only in rare cases with select people and titanic doses do people claim visual hallucinations. Overall the answer is a simple "no" with an exception that says "your mileage may vary."



If you legalised it, the country would earn money and people got happy, in short term but what about longterm. Alcohol is legal and we see how some people cant control their addiction.

Dunno... my gut instinct wants to say that addiction wouldn't become much worse than it is now but I haven't the psychological and physiological expertise to make a claim one way or the other (though marijuana isn't physically addictive, at least.)

[leica]

So overall what did I learn I think it should still be illegal, because 99% of everyone who smokes it only does weed to get high no other reason.false. yes, many people do have the "LOL LETS GET ****ED UP" mentality, but it is much better than alcohol as a social lubricant, and i'm willing to wager that more than 1% of smokers are medical marijuana patients.


Weed will remain illegal for pretty much ever because people are stupid and wont stop being stupid with the damn thing.yes, people are idiots. i'll agree with that.


That out of the 419 chemicals in the plant only two are good chemicals and they were used in a medicine created by a company in Germany and its used for pain and the best part, it doesnt get you high.the most active medicinal compounds in cannabis are thc and cbd, both of which do get you high.


In reality it is better than alcohol and if we had to choice between alcohol or weed it would be weed, but making it legal now would only comply the issues with drinking and smoking ya it would be a bad Combination I want nothing to do with weed, but if it has legit purposes use them to the fullest and keep it out of the hands of those who dont need it and keep it a criminal act to smoke and drive wont save the state any money but we will roll with it. .i cant tell where an idea stops and the next begins because there is no punctuation here.

i'm really glad that you agree that it's better than alcohol. i didn't expect to see that coming from you. i agree that combining alcohol and cannabis is a pretty damn bad idea though, but you must realize that the people who are dumb when they're crossfaded are the same people who would be dumb then they're just drunk.

smoking and driving is generally a bad idea, but it certainly isn't as bad as drinking and driving. there's a certain threshold of highness where you should not, under any circumstances, drive, but below that threshold, it is perfectly safe for most users to drive if it's really necessary. (many report being a better driver when high due to increased paranoia!) on the topic of smoking and driving, the presence of thc metabolites in urine should not indicate that a driver is stoned, because it doesn't. inactive metabolites stay in your urine for weeks or months. many states that have medical marijuana bills actually have provisions specifically stating that thc metabolites do not imply intoxication, which is pretty cool. it would be nice for a similar provision to be made for non-medical users.

however legalization would most certainly save states tons of money. way too many people are in jail for nonviolent drug crimes, and you can not argue that this doesn't cost the state money. there are also court costs, money spent by law enforcement while pursuing drug users, lab fees, etc.


So my final thoughts are this, if you smoke weed and you get caught there is no one to blame but yourself, dont blame law enforcement they are only doing their job blame your state governments. at least i know how to smoke and not get caught :D

i don't blame law enforcement or even state governments though. i blame the 20th century federal government for letting goddamn big industry lobby them. cannabis is only illegal because it provides hemp. the government had no intention of banning it as a drug until the big lumber and cotton guys bought out some politicians in exchange for its ban. the ban was fairly controversial, and propaganda was spread to justify banning an entire genus of plant. this propaganda created a strong negative public opinion of the stuff, and people actually believed the lies that weed is way worse than it is. and of course, public opinion dictates public policy, so it remains illegal.

[Jokersvirus]

Agreeing with everyone else who says to make it legal - and that it will become legal, probably within our lifetime, as the older generations die out and younger ones continue to take their place.



I don't understand how this makes any sense. Clapping and cheering for something you believe in doesn't make you an idiot or immature. And numbers are what you need to make something legal - it has nothing to do with maturity or intelligence. Anyone can go out and vote to make something legal, and, eventually, the effort to legalize marijuana is going to get enough people behind it to make it legal. I don't smoke and I don't intend to start, but I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it is illegal, and we could be doing a lot more with the money we spend on trying to keep it illegal.

They were clapping and cheering because they only want it legal so the cops would stop hassling them. Its the only reason people came really is to see the dude support making it legal for the reason and when they saw it wasnt like that they got mad and left.

[EpsilonX]

They were clapping and cheering because they only want it legal so the cops would stop hassling them. Its the only reason people came really is to see the dude support making it legal for the reason and when they saw it wasnt like that they got mad and left.

They want it legal so cops can stop hassling them. That is right. Why? Because they believe that it shouldn't be legal in the first place. Why? Because it's not harmful. Yes, you can show us your government website, but that's just a bunch of statements. Show some documented cases of marijuana use harming anybody. Cigarettes and alcohol are both legal (at a certain age) and those are FAR more deadly than weed. All i'm saying is, they came to support a cause they believe in. They left when it was said that it should stay illegal. That's a way of protesting the fact that it's illegal. I don't see the immaturity there.

[Jokersvirus]

They want it legal so cops can stop hassling them. That is right. Why? Because they believe that it shouldn't be legal in the first place. Why? Because it's not harmful. Yes, you can show us your government website, but that's just a bunch of statements. Show some documented cases of marijuana use harming anybody. Cigarettes and alcohol are both legal (at a certain age) and those are FAR more deadly than weed. All i'm saying is, they came to support a cause they believe in. They left when it was said that it should stay illegal. That's a way of protesting the fact that it's illegal. I don't see the immaturity there.
I do agree alcohol and cigarettes are deadly, im seeing it first hand right now.
If you come in support of making weed legal you cant pick and choice want you want to support if you want it legal, makes no sense in my view that would do harm to your cause. Im willing to bet if a reporter would have went up to a pothead before the show asking why it should be legal they wouldnt state anything about the legit purposes it can be used for Therefore it does more harm and shows everyone people are still immature. Also, coming into the theater and making it smell of weed doesnt help either.

[EpsilonX]

I do agree alcohol and cigarettes are deadly, im seeing it first hand right now.
If you come in support of making weed legal you cant pick and choice want you want to support if you want it legal, makes no sense in my view that would do harm to your cause. Im willing to bet if a reporter would have went up to a pothead before the show asking why it should be legal they wouldnt state anything about the legit purposes it can be used for Therefore it does more harm and shows everyone people are still immature. Also, coming into the theater and making it smell of weed doesnt help either.

well, people don't care about the medical purposes really, they enjoy smoking weed, they're just kids bein kids, and they don't see a reason as to why it should be illegal.

lol @ the last line

[Jokersvirus]

Kinda the point im making because of their immaturities they are doing more harm to their cause than good. They can start up a weed club on campus but with the amount of arrest for possession of weed that goes down it wont last very long.

[EpsilonX]

Kinda the point im making because of their immaturities they are doing more harm to their cause than good. They can start up a weed club on campus but with the amount of arrest for possession of weed that goes down it wont last very long.

there's a weed club at UB (where i used to go) and it's like an official club

[Jokersvirus]

Ya after the show the head dude asked people to come forward and help create such a club. In all honestly I dont think it has a snowball's chance in hell of working out, but we will see. if it does work out I might go to a meeting or two and see what they do.

[dor7123]

guys idk if u learn it but back here in israel we learn to much about this crap and its begins since elementary school and frankly its not good to smoke it unless your ill if you are smoking it when you are healthy you will be ill first its addictive second it demages you over time and not smoking wise demage it actually demage your brain and buying it not from your fermacy (idk how u say it but the place with the medicineS) u actually helping terrorist like hamas hizballa taliban and el kaida getting huge money for distructive weapons so just keep it illegal

[Jokersvirus]

Ya they both agreed smoking has risk so the head dude said to vaporize it, cook it, or just burn it and in haul.

Drugs are the major cash cow for terrorist orgs but its not weed, I think its coke or opium im not really sure anymore. I dont even think terrorist orgs try and sell it because they wont make alot, they only mess with harder hitting drugs, again not really sure. I dont think your helping out terrorist if i bought a bag of weed here in the states and somehow it got over to OBL someone knows something and that would be stopped and someone would be going to prison for a while.

[dor7123]

dude i dont talk about making them .in israel they make money not just from growing the weed and stuff they smuggle the weed (terroris)

[Jokersvirus]

I cant pick anything out of your post dor that i can understand...

[leica]

i make sure my dealers aren't terrorists or supplied by terrorists
doing my part to make everything right in the world

[Jokersvirus]

You profiling there leica :P

No no, in all honestly OBL has money out the butt since he is the son of a very rich father. They really dont need money OBL can fund everything for Taliban and AQ.

[leica]

what do you mean? :p

[paecmaker]

Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly:p

[dor7123]

what i meant to say is in israel hamas makes money from smuggling weed sorry sometime i can be unununununderstandable lol

[Jokersvirus]

Hamas has no interest in the us, as of right now ish, so buying weed in the states wont go to help support some Hamas terror cell.

[LiNuX]

that's why legalizing it and producing it in the country will eliminate any chance of exporting funds for anything.

[leica]

legalizing it and producing it in the country

legalizing it and producing it in the country

legalizing it and producing it in the country

legalizing it and producing it in the country
yes please

all the crap that's going down in juarez right now wouldn't be happening if drugs could be produced in the us. i do not support legalizing coke and heron, but (somehow; ****'s nasty) the cartels do make considerable profit off brick weed. if it didn't need to be imported and dealt on the black market, domestic dank would be considerably less expensive than imported brick, and nobody would buy the brick, and the cartels would die.

[dor7123]

yup thats pretty much what i meant linux is right thats what israel does now but only for medical treatment