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LiNuX
08-04-2011, 06:48 PM
Stocks plunged, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU -4.31%) tumbling 513 points, their worst one-day loss since December 2008 and ninth-worst point loss, as investors worried that the U.S. economy may be slipping back into a recession. The overall market carnage wiped out all of the 2011 gains for the major averages.

The market rout was prompted in part by concerns that the Federal Reserve won't try to boost the economy again and the prospects of little -- if any -- help on the way from the federal government. A huge concern was what Friday's big jobs report will say. In addition, there were deep fears about the health of the European financial system; stocks on the continent fell sharply. Stocks in Brazil were down nearly 6%.

With today's losses, the market is now in a correction, with the Dow, Standard & Poor's 500 Index ($INX -4.78%) and the Nasdaq Composite Index ($COMPX -5.08%) all down more than 11% from the closing highs for 2011, reached on April 29. Nearly all of the declines for the indexes have come since July 21; the Dow's loss in that time is about 1,340 points.

Gold briefly surged above $1,680 an ounce for the first time and then sold off, and crude oil dropped below $88 a barrel for the first time since mid-February.

The Dow closed down 513 points, or 4.3%, to 11,384. The S&P 500 was off 60 points, or 4.8%, to 1,200, its lowest level since Nov. 30, 2010. The Nasdaq was off 137 points, or 5.1%, to 2,556, its lowest level since Dec. 1, 2010. The Nasdaq 100 Index ($NDX -4.57%) was down 106 points, or 4.6%, to 2,207.

Dow drops 500 points

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While gold fell back, investors bid hotly for Treasurys. The 10-year Treasury yield fell to 2.458% from Wednesday's 2.599%.

Gold settled down $7.30 to $1,659 an ounce after reaching as high as $1,684.90. Silver was off $2.33 to $39.43 an ounce, a decline of 5.6%. Crude oil was down $5.30, or 5.8%, to $86.63 a barrel, its lowest level since Feb. 18 as the Egyptian revolution neared its climax. It had reached as low as $86.04.

What started the blow-off?
The supposed trigger was a weak report on initial jobless claims. They were down 1,000 to 400,000. A week ago's estimate of 398,000 was revised to 401,000.

The number raised the worries for Friday's nonfarm payrolls and unemployment report. The report, which will come out at 8:30 a.m. ET, is expected to show little change in the unemployment rate, which was 9.2% in June, and maybe a 85,000 gain in nonfarm payrolls.

But there were other big issues, including a move by the Bank of Japan to push the yen lower against major currencies, especially the dollar.

In addition, European stocks plunged on worries that debt problems for Greece, Portugal, Italy and Ireland were worsening. The European Central Bank unexpectedly began large-scale intervention in the eurozone debt markets, the first time since March, buying bonds in an apparent attempt to prevent the region's sovereign debt crisis from engulfing Italy.

The market tensions also set off a furious battle between investors wanting safety in Swiss francs and the Japanese yen and the central banks of those countries, which don't want their economies priced way too high.

Worst sell-off in over 2 years
Today's sell-off was the worst for the major averages since Dec. 1, 2008. Very little was spared.

General Motors (GM -4.34%, news) was down to $25.99 after second-quarter results beat estimates. But the company warned that the second half of 2011 may be lower than first-half profits. Ford Motor (F -6.78%, news) fell to $10.86.

Mighty Apple (AAPL -3.87%, news) and Google (GOOG -3.93%, news) were off to $377.37 and $577.52, respectively.

All 30 Dow stocks were lower. The best performer was Kraft Foods (KFT -1.52%, news), which dipped to $33.78. The company announced plans today to spin off its North American grocery business to shareholders, splitting the existing company in two. The grocery business would consist of the company's U.S. beverages, cheese, convenient meals and grocer segments and nonsnack items in Canada and Food Service.

Only 3 S&P 500 stocks were higher: Motorola Mobility (MMI +3.64%, news), Vulcan Materials (VMC +1.64%, news) and PG&E (PCG +0.42%, news).

None of the Nasdaq-100 stocks was higher. The top performers were Sears (SHLD -0.71%, news) and Costco (COST -0.74%, news), down to $66.87 and $76.51, respectively.

Source: Dow plunges 513 points; 2011 gains are wiped out - 1 - Market Dispatches - MSN Money (http://money.msn.com/investing/dow-plummets-market-dispatches.aspx)

Economy has been going down the drain again. But 500 points is crazy. When I woke up and saw the market down 300 points, my first thought was "not good, at least it can't get any worse" - then I step out for a few hours, come back, and look at a 500+ drop.

One company went down almost 70% in the big drop.

Jokersvirus
08-04-2011, 06:59 PM
Im pretty sure the worse is still coming and we will never get out of it since the government kinda doesnt want to do anything but just keep raising the debt ceiling etc etc

Jayhmmz
08-04-2011, 07:45 PM
This is all worrying, seeing as there is no end in sight just yet :(

Slay
08-04-2011, 10:14 PM
Federal Reserve act is what started it all...
You can't print gold, lol.

Jaykub
08-04-2011, 10:28 PM
In 2008 I heard a guy say this was only a small drop before we go into the next depression. Starting to look true.

Jokersvirus
08-04-2011, 10:37 PM
Meh, the government thinks they can save us from a depression. I honestly dont believe that. As harsh as this sounds the faster we hit the depression the faster we can recover from it and move on with our country.

Slay
08-04-2011, 10:45 PM
I wish life was like Homefront..
Or Fallout...

Jokersvirus
08-04-2011, 10:47 PM
Umm slay dude.

Fallout is hell on earth that wouldnt fun to live in that would suck

Slay
08-04-2011, 10:51 PM
Umm slay dude.

Fallout is hell on earth that wouldnt fun to live in that would suck

And moden day society/government is... ?
Atleast then we would all have more freedom.
SLAY-LOW-LAWP

Jokersvirus
08-04-2011, 10:54 PM
Modern society is actually good alot of crime and corruption but atleast when I go to bed at night I know i can sleep soundly, im sure you will agree with that. living in the fallout world i wouldnt sleep at all because people would come and try to rob me, kill me etc.

You wouldnt have more freedom what man calls freedom living in fear at all times wondering if they are going to be killed for a piece of food or a little money.

Slay
08-04-2011, 10:58 PM
I disagree, the only person I know in fallout who steals, or kills the innocent is the protagonist, (You).
It is all about working together, forming a society.
Although the monsters are out there, you still have homes with solid walls, and a good supply of food, ALL the time, due to mutation of all agricultural items of the wastes.
:3

Jokersvirus
08-04-2011, 11:00 PM
I hope you are not confusing what happens in the game with what would happen in real life my friend that is what I am getting from reading your posts.

Slay
08-04-2011, 11:02 PM
I am getting YOU have the wrong idea. Lol.
I said I wish life was like Fallout.
Not I wish life was like now, but the worlds architecture is ruined.

Exentenzed
08-04-2011, 11:07 PM
And moden day society/government is... ?
Atleast then we would all have more freedom.
SLAY-LOW-LAWP

Freedom? If this was anything like fallout you would probably have been murdered allready at a whim of a bypassing raider party.
OR brotherhood of steel caravan wanting rather to be "safe than sorry"
OR slashed to death by a pack of Deathclaws, or any other rabid, mutated, threathened animal.
OR if you didnt get killed at all you would probably be enslaved by a tribe or something.

So yea, i think we're good in a pre nuclear world. ;)

Slay
08-04-2011, 11:09 PM
Um, no...
You are born inside a civilization, not from the sky, chances are that will only hapen if they come to YOU.
And that has nothing to do with freedom, you have the freedom to get killed, sure, why not. :P

Jokersvirus
08-04-2011, 11:18 PM
I am getting YOU have the wrong idea. Lol.
I said I wish life was like Fallout.
Not I wish life was like now, but the worlds architecture is ruined.

What does wishing for life like fallout entail?

Slay
08-04-2011, 11:20 PM
Health regneration, perks, never bieng hungry, bieng a kick ass adventurer.... lol..

egg-whites333
08-05-2011, 12:44 AM
dude you forgot dieing then re spawning or find an old coke bottle take the cap and get money.

Slay
08-05-2011, 12:45 AM
Bottle caps ARE money, you should change your favorite game...

foof
08-05-2011, 12:57 AM
My Dad called me this morning and went on and on about the economy because of this. I'm...not too interested in investing at the moment now..

Jaykub
08-05-2011, 12:02 PM
Watched the nasdaq go from down 0.97% to nearly 4.00% in seconds. Fun times:|

egg-whites333
08-05-2011, 12:42 PM
Bottle caps ARE money, you should change your favorite game...

well i meant they are money find a old coke bottle and get money by that i mean you found money

Slay
08-05-2011, 12:49 PM
Egw, the only reason I don't wish life was like Fallout is because you'd be dismembered at the start of your life.
Or end up selling Jet in Freeside...

egg-whites333
08-05-2011, 12:52 PM
umm thats a nice thing to say heyis canada touched by this nucular war because if not im safe

Slay
08-05-2011, 12:59 PM
The world is....

egg-whites333
08-05-2011, 01:04 PM
damint now explain why ill get dimemberd when im born

Slay
08-05-2011, 01:15 PM
At age 3 you will wander from your vault, and to find out you are at a deathclaws nest the second you walk out the vault door. Or, I suppose they could take you one as one of their own...

egg-whites333
08-05-2011, 01:18 PM
what i thought the vaults were secure and the doors taller than a 3 year olds reach

Slay
08-05-2011, 01:19 PM
"This door is opened else where"
There is a lever like 2 feet from the ground on a pedestal.

egg-whites333
08-05-2011, 01:30 PM
crap well its a good thing im not 3 because that would suck

Slay
08-05-2011, 01:38 PM
Can you block a forum member? Like from seeing them at all?

LiNuX
08-05-2011, 02:38 PM
Hello everyone, this thread is about the drop in the stock market. Keep it on topic!

Metallica1983
08-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Meh, the government thinks they can save us from a depression. I honestly dont believe that. As harsh as this sounds the faster we hit the depression the faster we can recover from it and move on with our country.

I agree the faster this economy tanks the faster we can rebuild it raising our debt ceiling was a huge mistake because now we will have a whole lot more to lose when the economy does finally crash

Dess
08-06-2011, 11:47 PM
I know what I'm doing..

BUY BUY BUY!!!!

LiNuX
08-08-2011, 04:41 PM
I know what I'm doing..

BUY BUY BUY!!!!

Don't know if you wanna do that just yet.

Market plunged 634 points again today. The NYSE dropped more than 500 today.

If you wanna invest, then gold price is going way up. It always does in times like this.

Jaykub
08-08-2011, 04:54 PM
****s getting real again

Dess
08-09-2011, 01:52 AM
Don't know if you wanna do that just yet.

Market plunged 634 points again today. The NYSE dropped more than 500 today.

If you wanna invest, then gold price is going way up. It always does in times like this.

I don't do my own investing =)

I pay much smarter, better qualified people to do that for me...lol

I'm too afraid I'll screw up, forget to check my stocks for a day, or 12.... and lose a bunch of money. So I let other people handle it for me. So far, so good.