HD DVD Surpasses 750,000 Dedicated Players

[Scott]

Promotional Group announces record HD DVD hardware sales following Black
Friday

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- Following landmark Black Friday
promotions through major retail chains, the North American HD DVD
Promotional Group today announced that sales of dedicated HD DVD players
exceeded the 750,000 mark. The data is based on retailer reports and other
point of sale data, and includes standalone set-top players as well as the
Xbox 360 HD DVD player.

"HD DVD continues to gain momentum and market share with consumers,"
said Ken Graffeo, executive vice president of HD strategic marketing for
Universal Studios Home Entertainment, and co-president of the HD DVD
Promotional Group. "With more than four weeks left for holiday shopping, HD
DVD is turning out to be a perfect consumer electronics gift."

HD DVD continues to step up marketing and education efforts, helping
consumers to see the quality and value of the new format. In addition to an
enhanced presence at major retailers, HD DVD has added educational sections
to its website at http://www.TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com.

About HD DVD

HD DVD is the next generation, post-DVD standard for high capacity,
high definition optical discs, approved by the DVD Forum, which develops
and defines DVD formats. Its more than 220 strong membership brings
together leaders in movies and entertainment, computing, consumer
electronics and software. HD DVD is fast becoming the primary visual medium
for the age of high-definition TV. The North American HD DVD Promotional
Group, Inc. is an organization established to promote the HD DVD format and
educate consumers in North America. For more information and a complete
listing of HD DVD titles please visit
http://www.TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com.



SOURCE North American HD DVD Promotional Group

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I guess they're including the 360 add-on because it can only play movies?

[Supermoose]

I take it the 750,000 numer is america only which means they could be around or above the million mark world wide??

[Toxic]

I guess they're including the 360 add-on because it can only play movies?

It specifically states it includes both stand-alone players and the 360 add-on

[jakncoke]

I wonder what Blu-Ray stand alone is at.

[Scott]

It specifically states it includes both stand-alone players and the 360 add-on

Obviously, but that wasn't my question.

[TeknoVagrant]

link (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-27-2007/0004711631&EDATE=)

I guess they're including the 360 add-on because it can only play movies?

They added it for promotion, I guess. The dedicated in the title is a bit misleading in my opinion.
There isn't any HD-DVD player out there that does more than playing movies.

Blu-ray camp is lucky to have the Millions of PS3 on it's side!

[Supermoose]

Obviously, but that wasn't my question.

It could be the reason.

But dont the blu-ray camp count PS3 as a dedicated player?

[Scott]

It could be the reason.

But dont the blu-ray camp count PS3 as a dedicated player?

I don't think so. That's why when Sony releases numbers people always call them into question. Like they sold X amount of players in October.

[Supermoose]

I don't think so. That's why when Sony releases numbers people always call them into question. Like they sold X amount of players in October.

I always thought there numbers were took in to question because they included PS3 sales aswell.

I dnt really know tho cause i dont usually read sale reports.

[Toxic]

face it , if the ps3 did not include the blu-ray, it would already be dead and this format war over. Clearly HD-DVD is the choice for stand alone players and that is what should be the focus of this war.

[Supermoose]

face it , if the ps3 did not include the blu-ray, it would already be dead and this format war over. Clearly HD-DVD is the choice for stand alone players and that is what should be the focus of this war.

But these numbers include th e 360 add on.

You cant exclude the PS3 without excuding the add on IMO.

[jakncoke]

face it , if the ps3 did not include the blu-ray, it would already be dead and this format war over. Clearly HD-DVD is the choice for stand alone players and that is what should be the focus of this war.

If HD-DVD fanboys want to win the format way they need to buy more, Blu-Ray software still dwarfs HD-DVD software and that all Movie company's care about. I'm quite shocked Paramount chose to prolong the war by accepting the bribe for help, I wonder they'll chose after the 18 month contract is up. Either way both still could become niche, DVD will be really strong long after one of these 2 win, I expect it take at least 10 years before a HD format take majority marketshare.

[Cov3rt]

People only buy the add on for movies so I think its fair to include it.
WE dont know if people buy the PS3 for games, movies or both.

[Supermoose]

People only buy the add on for movies so I think its fair to include it.
WE dont know if people buy the PS3 for games, movies or both.

I get what your saying and agree i said the same thing a while back but i have always considered dedicated players as standalone players or players built in to a TV combi.

Perhaps my perception of a dedicated player is wrong but that is how i look at it.

[Cov3rt]

I agree with you about the dedicated player thing the in a way the add on is like half a dedicated player. It only plays movies but you need a 360 for it.
Im 99.99% sure that no one bout the 360 just for the add on.

[Mr Cool]

But these numbers include th e 360 add on.

You cant exclude the PS3 without excuding the add on IMO.

Not true.Is everyone that owns a PS3 using the BR feature? hell no....but,no-one is gonna buy a 360 add-on and just let it collect dust because it does not play games.It should be counted as a stand alone.

[Supermoose]

Not true.Is everyone that owns a PS3 using the BR feature? hell no....but,no-one is gonna buy a 360 add-on and just let it collect dust because it does not play games.It should be counted as a stand alone.

Nah i doubt anybody done that either.

[DeadCell]

The 360 does not come with HD-DVD viewing capability. To do that you must intentionally buy that add-on. Nobody is going to buy the add-on unless they are watching HD-DVD movies. Therefore, the 360 add-on SHOULD be considered as a player.

on the PS3, it's a bit harder to judge.

I think to get a really accurate read you have to look at number discs sold in each format. It's the best way to determine what is really happening.

[Scott]

I would gander that these outrageous claims that people don't know there is a Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 are completely false. Hell, I had someone ask me if the PS3 played DVD's because it had a Blu-Ray drive.

[joecool6101]

face it , if the ps3 did not include the blu-ray, it would already be dead and this format war over. Clearly HD-DVD is the choice for stand alone players and that is what should be the focus of this war.

Well said..

Fun story.. at BestBuy looking at TV's and they had a blu-ray player with spiderman.. The movie actually had a loading screen (3 minutes to load menu) LOL HD DVD is faster loading but as far as quality they are the same i think..

Also, PS3's should be not be counted considering the addon for 360 MUST BE PURCHASED SEPARATELY! So for ps3 they arent getting the blu-ray by choice its forced upon them.

Just my 2 cents.. jakncoke will just reply "your a mindless fanboy" watch ^_^ Do some research.

~Joecool6101