The consoles from the Start. [Archive]

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Trunks

06-30-2008, 01:55 PM

I know I posted this review already, but I added some more information, pictures and fixed grammatical mistakes.

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Everyone remembers the good old Atari VCS ( also known as 2600 ). The first gaming console that was released in 1978, at a price of $200. Atari didn't make good sales until 1980 when arcade games were published by Activision. Games like Space Invaders, Defender, Combat, Asteroids and Pitfall. It's also hard to believe, but Atari was ahead of its time by having Wireless joy sticks. I don't like how the joystick feels. It's really stiff and it seems like I have to force everything I do.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/986/mattelintellivisioncu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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In 1979 the Intellivision came out just a year after its competitor Atari released its console, with the price for this system starting at $300. Intellivision weird controllers made it very unique from the Atari. It had 15 buttons all together which made it extremely hard to play. They had little covers to go over the controller for each game to tell which button did what.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1489/colecovisiongc8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Later the ColecoVision came out in 1982, at a price of $300. The thing that stuns me is that it can play Atari 2600 games on it. Which doesn't make sense to me, because they were competitors. It is basically the same as the Intellivision, same weird like controller that makes you think you have a phone in your hand. They even had the same graphics. I guess the only upgrade was that it can play Atari 2600 games.

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That same year the Atari 5200 came out competing with the ColecoVision at a price of $330. ( I still don't understand this I thought they teamed up, but whatever. ) Although the Atari won in the graphic battle, but it performed poorly in the market due to design flaws. For one, the controllers are notorious for not working. If you even got a working one good luck trying to use it. It has numerical numbers on it, just like the Intellivision and ColecoVision. It was the first to have a potentiometer-based analog stick on the controllers, but it was enough. Other than that, It was basically a big failure.

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The system you all know and love was released in 1985, the Nintendo (NES). It started at a price of only $250 pretty cheap for its popularity. This system blew the gaming world out of proportions With its 8-bit graphics didn't seem to have competitors other than the Sega master system which was release a year later. The (NES) great performance and games made it the best seller of its time.

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The Sega master system was released in 1986 competing with the (NES) for ??? (Can't find it anywhere ). Not much to say about this one. The Master System seemed to fail in that market industries due to the lack of games. It seem to have only one game series that made any profit which was Sega the Hedge Hog.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2455/genesis2xd8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In 1989, Sega tried again with the Genesis which started at $160. It was also known as the Mega Drive to japan and other regions, because in North America, Sega couldn't secure legal rights in other regions. It was also known as the Mega Which had 16-bit graphics with blast processing and better games like Gunstar Heroes. Yes, That's it, just Gunstar Heroes.... Although it had better graphics then the (NES) it still failed to meet the standards of its audiences.

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Next is Nintendo's turn to upgrade with there new system in 1991, called Super Nintendo that started at a price of only $200 ( Another amazingly low price. I would have thought that it would be higher because of there success with the (NES)). It also had 16-bit graphics and its high speed cpu ( at the time period )which made it run faster than any other system. Many Nintendo fans think of the Super Nintendo to be the best System ever made.

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Atari's had one last chance at controlling the gaming world. They Released the Atari Jaguar in 1993 for $200. Although it had 64-bit graphics it seemed to fail in the markets which caused them to drop out of video game console market. They still made games for other consoles, including 7th generation consoles.

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A new manufacturer is coming in for the battle. The Sony PlayStation in 1994 for $300. Although it had 32-bit graphics it was the first to sell over 100,000,000 consoles. It seemed that Sony would soon take control of the market world. The PlayStation seemed to have plenty of games to keep audiences occupied. The games include, Grand Theft Auto 1 & 2, Metal Gear Solid and the most anticipated games Final Fantasy.

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The Sega Saturn was released in 1995, for $400 with 32-bit graphics. Sega was in process of creating Sega Neptune, it was canceled shortly before Saturn was released. ( They were making to many systems, and couldn't keep track of them. ) Once again it didn't compare to the audiences as its competitors. This was when the gaming world started to see Sega slipping away.

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Nintendo made another console in 1997, called the Nintendo 64 at the price of $200, which also had great success in the market. It was known as the last console to use cartridges. For some reason they seemed to put 64 at the end of all there games. Does anyone know if there was any reason for this or what? Maybe someone could help me out. They must of thought it was cute or something.

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Sega finally got it right with the DreamCast, which was released in 1999, for $200. Although it was a great system it still was at the bottom of list of Sony and Nintendo. When Microsoft joined the console wars someone had to go and it was Sega that got knocked out. Although they quit making consoles, they still make games for Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. They stopped making games for the DreamCast in 2007.

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Sony developed the PlayStation 2 and released it in 2000 for $300. The PS2 sold over 127,000,000 million systems which is the highest amount up to this date. It was the first console to have online play.

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Nintendo made the GameCube in 2001, for $200. The Gamecube was a good system, but the PlayStation 2 had them beat by a long shot. It seemed to look like Nintendo was going to fall out of the competition when the Xbox released. I don't know much about this console, so I don't have much to say about it.

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Finally Microsoft joined the battle. With the Xbox in 2001 for $350. It was of course competing with the GameCube and the PlayStation 2. The Xbox was there first attempt with the console world and seemed to be going well. At its time it was the second best seller of its generation.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6206/microsoftxbox360jm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now we enter the seventh generation of video games. In 2005 Microsoft released another console called the Xbox 360 from $300 to $400. It has the best ever selling online play game, Halo 3, sold over 8 mill copies. The Xbox 360 has sold over 19 million consoles. So that means that a little under half of the worlds Xbox 360 players have halo 3.

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In 2006 sony released there next console called PlayStation 3 from a range of $500 - $600. Although they used to be on the top of the markets they moved to the bottom. It seems that the blue ray caused many problems making people not want to buy it. Also the price was incredibly high compared to its other competitors. What I think happened was that Sony got too zealous and decided that people would buy there system no matter what price.

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The Wii was also released in 2006 for $250. It cheap price and interactive games caused it to go to the top of the market. It seems that Nintendo put themselves back at the top. They have the best ever selling game on any other console. . Wii sports, a very simple game was put at the top. It goes to show that graphics are not everything.

Edited by: Iced

Samus-Fan

06-30-2008, 02:40 PM

LiNuX

06-30-2008, 02:45 PM

ah..the 16 bit sega genesis lol, brings back memories.

they all bring back some old memories lol - good work on the first review :D

edit: about the pictures, i am not sure if imageshack is the problem because i tried to post them up as well and it wouldn't work, didn't get an error like you though

Trunks

06-30-2008, 02:52 PM

Interesting. I think you forgot some systems:
Wikimedia Error (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnavox_Odyssey)
Wikimedia Error (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer)
Wikimedia Error (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo_%28console%29)

But other then that, this is great!
And I think that 64 was put on the end of every game to make it clear that it was a N64 game. Not sure though

I missed probably a dozen of them, I just did the more popular names. Like Sega, Atari, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft.

ah..the 16 bit sega genesis lol, brings back memories.

they all bring back some old memories lol - good work on the first review :D

edit: about the pictures, i am not sure if imageshack is the problem because i tried to post them up as well and it wouldn't work, didn't get an error like you though

It works for me now if I put them up one at a time....

LiNuX

06-30-2008, 02:54 PM

It works for me now if I put them up one at a time....

wow, thats just weird then - you shouldn't have problems posting images on here, as many as you want in a single post

i will look into the error you posted and see whats up

next time if you have problems, feel free to use the GF Image Host or photobucket which is a better image host imo

Trunks

06-30-2008, 03:09 PM

wow, thats just weird then - you shouldn't have problems posting images on here, as many as you want in a single post

i will look into the error you posted and see whats up

next time if you have problems, feel free to use the GF Image Host or photobucket which is a better image host imo

All, the pictures should be working now. Let me know if they are not. I'll use the GF next time. Image shack takes forever. It took me 20 min to upload all the pictures when it should of took about 5....

LiNuX

06-30-2008, 03:20 PM

yup they all work now - good job fixing

i still have my PS1, PS2, and Sega Genesis somewhere. i think my snes is around here somewhere too

Samus-Fan

06-30-2008, 03:44 PM

yup they all work now - good job fixing

i still have my PS1, PS2, and Sega Genesis somewhere. i think my snes is around here somewhere too

I can't believe I don't have a PS! in my house. I have the NES (Still Works), SNES (Works), N64, PS2, Genisis (Works), 360, Wii, Atari 2600 or whatever(Works), but no Dreamcast either. No atari 5200 or a PS3

LiNuX

06-30-2008, 03:45 PM

I can't believe I don't have a PS! in my house. I have the NES (Still Works), SNES (Works), N64, PS2, Genisis (Works), 360, Wii, Atari 2600 or whatever(Works), but no Dreamcast either. No atari 5200 or a PS3

dreamcast didnt go far, i used to go to one of my friends house to play it - his name was Jesus lol. Pronounced Hey-Seuss

Twigz

06-30-2008, 04:38 PM

LMAO @ that telephoney looking thingie; was that part of a "gaming system" of that time?

Trunks

06-30-2008, 04:47 PM

LMAO @ that telephoney looking thingie; was that part of a "gaming system" of that time?

Yep, the Intellivision had it along with the ColecoVision.

EpsilonX

07-01-2008, 02:02 PM

You forgot Pong and the Magnavox Odyssey, they were what started video games!

Trunks

07-02-2008, 04:45 PM

You forgot Pong and the Magnavox Odyssey, they were what started video games!

Like I said above. I used the major gaming companies... Atari, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

wifi

07-02-2008, 06:33 PM

i havent finished reading it yet, i am still reading lol, but so far, good job there, i remember a lot of them, well some of them :-p

EpsilonX

07-02-2008, 06:45 PM

Like I said above. I used the major gaming companies... Atari, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

but...they started it!

Trunks

07-02-2008, 08:54 PM

but...they started it!

yes, but were they major consoles?.... No they weren't.

EpsilonX

07-02-2008, 09:48 PM

yes, but were they major consoles?.... No they weren't.

Dude it was freaking pong man. Pong was big and kickbutt.

I think the very first gaming console is a good console to start with in the review of "consoles from the start"

or at least "it all started with 'pong' and the magnavox 'odyssey'" at the beginning

Trunks

07-02-2008, 10:20 PM

Dude it was freaking pong man. Pong was big and kickbutt.

I think the very first gaming console is a good console to start with in the review of "consoles from the start"

or at least "it all started with 'pong' and the magnavox 'odyssey'" at the beginning

Most gamers say that gaming started with Atari. The odyssey was powered by batteries and did poorly in the markets compared to the Atari. It isn't a well know console and it isn't a MAJOR console. By what you wrote you it seems that you don't even understand that "pong" was made by Atari. Not forgetting that the Odyssey had pong, but it was terrible compared to the Atari version. My point is that the technology wasn't there until the Atari 2600. I will say it once again, because I seem to have to repeat my self to you..... Most gamers say that the first console is Atari. If you don't think so that's fine, I honestly don't care. Don't post here saying it isn't.

Samus-Fan

07-02-2008, 10:26 PM

Most gamers say that gaming started with Atari. The odyssey was powered by batteries and did poorly in the markets compared to the Atari. It isn't a well know console and it isn't a MAJOR console. By what you wrote you it seems that you don't even understand that "pong" was made by Atari. Not forgetting that the Odyssey had pong, but it was terrible compared to the Atari version. My point is that the technology wasn't there until the Atari 2600. I will say it once again, because I seem to have to repeat my self to you..... Most gamers say that the first console is Atari. If you don't think so that's fine, I honestly don't care. Don't post here saying it isn't.

I'm sorry, but you really need to include the Odyssey. I mean, like he said, it started it all. Even though it sucked in sales, and graphics, and maybe ran on batteries, IT STARTED VIDEO GAMES. To say Atari started it is like saying the PS3 was made before the 360.
Atari was the first popular console, true, but not the first.

Trunks

07-02-2008, 10:29 PM

I'm sorry, but you really need to include the Odyssey. I mean, like he said, it started it all. Even though it sucked in sales, and graphics, and maybe ran on batteries, IT STARTED VIDEO GAMES. To say Atari started it is like saying the PS3 was made before the 360.
Atari was the first popular console, true, but not the first.

Did you read the last sentence in my post... If you really want it to be in there, go make your own thread and review....

LiNuX

07-02-2008, 10:37 PM

guys, the game reviewer reviewed what he wanted, you can't say he did a bad job for not including a few old school gaming consoles, give him credit for effort and submitting a game review

Samus-Fan

07-02-2008, 10:42 PM

Did you read the last sentence in my post... If you really want it to be in there, go make your own thread and review....

I DID, and that is what I have a problem with.
"Most gamers say that the first console is Atari. If you don't think so that's fine, I honestly don't care. Don't post here saying it isn't."

Ok, so I will prove it.
Odyssey: May 1972
Atari 2600: October 1977

Happy? Or do you still think it isn't the first?
I dunno, or maybe you will say it isn't.
Or maybe most of us will start to learn that the Atari IS NOT THE FIRST CONSOLE

Trunks

07-02-2008, 10:48 PM

I DID, and that is what I have a problem with.
"Most gamers say that the first console is Atari. If you don't think so that's fine, I honestly don't care. Don't post here saying it isn't."

Ok, so I will prove it.
Odyssey: May 1972
Atari 2600: October 1977

Happy? Or do you still think it isn't the first?
I dunno, or maybe you will say it isn't.
Or maybe most of us will start to learn that the Atari IS NOT THE FIRST CONSOLE

You don't read at all.... I understand and already knew that it came out before. The reason most gamers say that Atari is the first isn't because they never heard of the others. It's because the system it's self. When you said I "forgot" some consoles in the review. I told you simply that I did the major ones. The Odyssey isn't one.... I'll repeat my self again..... I said Atari, was the first gaming console, because of the game play. I don't think technology was there for the older consoles. I hope you understand now, because I'm done arguing with you. The review is stay as it is. Make your own review about it........

Samus-Fan

07-02-2008, 10:51 PM

You don't read at all.... I understand and already knew that it came out before. The reason most gamers say that Atari is the first isn't because they never heard of the others. It's because the system it's self. When you said I "forgot" some consoles in the review. I told you simply that I did the major ones. The Odyssey isn't one.... I'll repeat my self again..... I said Atari, was the first gaming console, because of the game play. I don't think technology was there for the older consoles. I hope you understand now, because I'm done arguing with you. The review is stay as it is. Make your own review about it........

I would love to, but I am not a game reviewer.
If something that started gaming worldwide isn't major, I dunno what is.
Name brands are not always major. eMachines are not major, and they are a name brand. Local Pizza Shops are off-brand pizza places, and they are better then almost ALL pizza places.

Glad we are done. I am out of Voltage anyway

LiNuX

07-02-2008, 10:53 PM

neither of you know how to read - this board is for posting reviews the game reviewer WANTS to post without any forms of arguments on the stuff the game reviewer DID NOT WANT to post.

if more of this keeps up this will be the first review to be closed

Trunks

07-02-2008, 10:56 PM

Read linux's post so I edited it.

EpsilonX

07-03-2008, 02:53 AM

I would love to, but I am not a game reviewer.
If something that started gaming worldwide isn't major, I dunno what is.
Name brands are not always major. eMachines are not major, and they are a name brand. Local Pizza Shops are off-brand pizza places, and they are better then almost ALL pizza places.

Glad we are done. I am out of Voltage anyway

Think of it this way.

the metal gear series started out on the msx2 (or is it mxs2?) with Metal Gear. It had 2 sequels, one was canon and one was not.

Then, they made Metal Gear Solid and it's sequels.

Samus is saying that the series actually began with Metal Gear, and then they made snake's revenge, which inspired kojima to continue the series. You're saying that the 2 original metal gears and snake's revenge don't count because they weren't popular and didn't have the technical level of the rest.

Now apply that to video games. Metal Gear and Snakes revenge = Pong and Odyssey. Metal Gear Solid = Atari 2600 and everything afterwards.

If it weren't for the odyssey and pong, video gaming might not have taken off. Sure, just cuz they suck doesn't mean they weren't important. I'm not complaining about the lack of that console that lets you play both NES and SNES games because it didn't do anything for the gaming market. But Pong and Odyssey were very important in the making of video games.

I'm not trying to make this an argument, but I just had to say it, cuz you guys got yelled at before i had a chance to respond to this topic.

Now...

Smite me, oh almighty smiter!

Trunks

07-03-2008, 03:23 AM

rukisuto

07-03-2008, 07:58 AM

I did not realize an argument was going on here.

I just came to say that I think he review looks a lot better with some pictures in there.
I still remember my sega genesis and N64.
Man I miss 'em, lol.

LiNuX

07-03-2008, 11:57 AM

so....anyone else have any consoles trunks mentioned?

next response has to answer that!

rukisuto

07-03-2008, 10:45 PM

I've only had the Sega Genesis, N64, Gamecube, Xbox, and Xbox 360.
I refuse to get anything playstation, lol.

EpsilonX

07-04-2008, 04:55 PM

I'm sorry linux, but I'm going to some this up to explain all this. I did in my last one before I edited it. PLease forgive me = (

Okay now lets start over... Reviews are all based on opinions right good okay....I said I was going reviewing the major companies. In my eyes the major companies are Sega, Nintendo, Atari, Microsoft and Sony. I also said why I said Atari was the first console. It was my opinion that gaming started at that console. Yes, I understand they came out in different years. I personally, me myself think that gaming didn't really start till Atari... You may think different. This is just what I think. Also, My review wasn't on important consoles. I don't understand how this is hard to comprehend. I told you what I thought was the Major companies. Other people may think different that's fine let them. Why can't you let me voice my opinion. Your not wrong, and I'm not wrong. You know why, because there all opinions. hopefully.. this will be the last post on why I didn't put the other systems in it. I'm sure someone will have to show me up and post something so pointless... What ever you say isn't going to change my opinion . So please don't waste your time.....

Up until this post you pretty much thought that gaming didn't exist until the 2600. You were acting like Pong and the Odyssey had absolutely no impact on the gaming world. But Atari took the technology that was started with those 2 consoles, and went somewhere with it.

so lets combine our opinions. Gaming started with Odyssey and Pong, but it didn't get anywhere until the 2600? that's when it became "worth it" so to speak. hows that?

And I own ps1 ps2 ps3 psp ds n64 gamecube gbasp and gbc. my regular gba's screen cracked so i had to get another, and got an sp.

Trunks

07-04-2008, 07:00 PM

Just lock this thread, I'm tired of arguing with people who have no idea what there talking about...

Samus-Fan

07-04-2008, 07:06 PM

Just lock this thread, I'm tired of arguing with people who have no idea what there talking about...

You have it wrong. If you are talking about me and Epsilon, then you are mistaken.
Beside, you are just gonna lock it because you're losing.
And how do we have no idea what we are talking about?
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAYS MAJOR THINGS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE THING THAT STARTED IT!!!!!
Maybe the xbox isn't important because it isn't as good as the 360.
Halo isn't important even though it started the Halo trilogy.
And lets not forget that US Scientists are not important even though they created the internet.
And you don't know correct English. Note the bold "there". It should be "they're"

LiNuX

07-04-2008, 07:07 PM

thank you all for listening to me

*thread locked*